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Fifteenth of a series ...


“I wonder what our station listeners are thinking about us”? That question has always been with broadcasters. So, eventually, we all began audience RESEARCH to help us find out. During the past five years I have interviewed a few thousand individuals from every part of the US inquiring as to not only what they liked or disliked about radio, but also probing them to find out their favorite colors, where they thought the economy is headed, who would win various music or movie awards, the latest clothing styles, etc. With an adequate sample size and reasonably balanced demographics it is not difficult to project their thoughts into good programming and station promotional activity.

I have met a lot of outstanding researchers in the past decades. I’ll mention just a few. While attending a radio convention in Los Angeles decades ago I was seated next to famed researcher Marshall McLuhan. We talked left brain/right brain for hours. I asked him, “other than yourself who is the best researcher you know”? He paused for a second, and said “the best radio researcher at the moment in this hemisphere is John Parikhal”. I knew John and his partner David Charles. They worked out of Canada at the time. Some of our consulting company people had said great things about John when we co-consulted a few Canadian stations. We entered into a loose partnership agreement to sign John to work with some of our USA clients. In other words, he was to do research for some of our clients. John and I were asked to speak at a Cox management meeting for THREE hours. He was fabulous, and for those of you who have heard him speak you know what I mean. KFI in Los Angeles, one of our consulting clients, asked John to do a perceptual. I was with him in LA when he made the presentation of his findings. It was really good stuff. He was and is excellent.

Another researcher I worked with was Owen Leach. He was introduced to our consulting company by Jim Phillips, a former college classmate, who owned two stations in El Paso. Owen was living and working out of the southwest at that time. (He is at Princeton now.) I flew to El Paso to meet him. He was fabulous, and his unique research technique was in layman’s language. We entered into a two year agreement.. I introduced him to one of our clients, Carl Brazell, president of Metromedia (who was in the process of buying it from John Kluge). Owen and Carl hit it off big time, and Owen brought a lot of valuable, customized research to all of Carl’s markets….including some in Europe. Owen is really smart.

Not all researchers are as smart as John or Owen, but most are very competent. However, every now and then I run into some faulty research. I was buying a station and examined some music research the seller had ordered and implemented. This was an area of the country that I knew VERY well. The ratings had decreased by a third or so. The music research was flawed, and I knew it within minutes after reviewing it. So, after we bought the station I took it back to the original music, put in a new rotation, and the station became number one 12 plus. All this station needed was a better rotation.

And, research doesn’t have to follow the same old q and a format. For example, while consulting WSB in Atlanta years ago I asked management to let me do an unusual type of morning show research. They said OK. Tom McClendon, research chief for Cox at the time, hand selected the morning show sample of about 75 people. We asked all 75 respondents to listen to WSB on a certain morning (they were already constant WSB morning listeners), and then meet at 5:30 PM in a ball room of a local hotel for three hours. We had sandwiches and soft drinks. I was the MC. I played certain taped parts of the morning show, and walked and talked to the respondents listening carefully to their comments…then I probed them for even more. The GM and PD of the station sat in the audience and acted as though they were respondents. I wanted them to really feel the respondents. We found out three items that definitely helped the WSB morning show. Tom said “now that was some good research”.

So, imagination in research is good!!! John, Owen and the WSB project proved it. And I know because I WAS THERE.

Next week: PROGRAMMERS.


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